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		<title>By: hans heinrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>hans heinrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah DC and Marvel will eventually lose out to Dark Horse  because all those two companies do ever do  is repeat the same old  concepts.


When fans think DC or Marvel,  they would always have  that stereotype   about  the
DC Universe (not Vertigo or not Wildstorm)
or the Marvel Universe (not non MU titles).


Most people who do read  comics know  that
Marvel  and  DC  just  revamp  their titles
every decade and that the  last  storylines 
from  the  last  decade  is just    updated
for  the  next  decade  and  no  real respect
for  that  particular  storyline.

 Let's not forget that most people who read comic books  in  the  West  are mostly  the  older  generation,  not  youngsters.  If
youngsters do read comics, it would be something like from a kids show,  like Lego's
Bionicles series.


Future of comics in the wets is bleak, thanks to video games and in the internet and so comics
will continue to decline in sales but even those
older generation who still read comics will get less interested nin Marvel and DC (since they are just forever being updated for every decade) and so,  the balance will eventually shift to  Dark  Horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah DC and Marvel will eventually lose out to Dark Horse  because all those two companies do ever do  is repeat the same old  concepts.</p>
<p>When fans think DC or Marvel,  they would always have  that stereotype   about  the<br />
DC Universe (not Vertigo or not Wildstorm)<br />
or the Marvel Universe (not non MU titles).</p>
<p>Most people who do read  comics know  that<br />
Marvel  and  DC  just  revamp  their titles<br />
every decade and that the  last  storylines<br />
from  the  last  decade  is just    updated<br />
for  the  next  decade  and  no  real respect<br />
for  that  particular  storyline.</p>
<p> Let&#8217;s not forget that most people who read comic books  in  the  West  are mostly  the  older  generation,  not  youngsters.  If<br />
youngsters do read comics, it would be something like from a kids show,  like Lego&#8217;s<br />
Bionicles series.</p>
<p>Future of comics in the wets is bleak, thanks to video games and in the internet and so comics<br />
will continue to decline in sales but even those<br />
older generation who still read comics will get less interested nin Marvel and DC (since they are just forever being updated for every decade) and so,  the balance will eventually shift to  Dark  Horse.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is agreeable that superheroes will never "go away", but in respect to the traditional 22 page monthly... I think they may be.  The graphic novel is much more satisfying to me.  The monthly, though nostalgic, isn't worth the trouble.  I often wait for the trade, and then save myself money and the frustration of wondering what is happening for a month.  Also, with the writers and artists in these things improving their craft daily.  Books are often late.  Give me a graphic novel that is done right over a rushed 22 pager any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is agreeable that superheroes will never &#8220;go away&#8221;, but in respect to the traditional 22 page monthly&#8230; I think they may be.  The graphic novel is much more satisfying to me.  The monthly, though nostalgic, isn&#8217;t worth the trouble.  I often wait for the trade, and then save myself money and the frustration of wondering what is happening for a month.  Also, with the writers and artists in these things improving their craft daily.  Books are often late.  Give me a graphic novel that is done right over a rushed 22 pager any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Joe

I think another issue for new comic dwellers is obscurity.  If you don't live next to a comic book store or hae comic book friends, the chances of you picking up a super specialized edition of Superman is pretty slim.

Online web comics are much easier to find than traditional comics.  Web comic rankings and online advertising make it relatively cheap for a content creator to "get noticed" vs. if they took their chances selling their product in a small obscure comic book stores.

The recent online anime blogging community has done some work to spotlight good, quality anime series.  Busy anime watchers can simply log onto the Internet to find what series the author finds appealing and focus their efforts that way.

It's a nice thing to have and it gives me time to enjoy the things that I love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Joe</p>
<p>I think another issue for new comic dwellers is obscurity.  If you don&#8217;t live next to a comic book store or hae comic book friends, the chances of you picking up a super specialized edition of Superman is pretty slim.</p>
<p>Online web comics are much easier to find than traditional comics.  Web comic rankings and online advertising make it relatively cheap for a content creator to &#8220;get noticed&#8221; vs. if they took their chances selling their product in a small obscure comic book stores.</p>
<p>The recent online anime blogging community has done some work to spotlight good, quality anime series.  Busy anime watchers can simply log onto the Internet to find what series the author finds appealing and focus their efforts that way.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a nice thing to have and it gives me time to enjoy the things that I love.</p>
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		<title>By: BeaucoupKevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeaucoupKevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as they can continue selling to their insular, core audience of spandex fans, Marvel and DC won't do anything to diversify their mainline titles at all.  What they need to worry about is the fact that a large segment market segment they have is literally on its way to dying out.  Kids raised on Manga, along with a twentysomethings who read graphic novels and consider &lt;i&gt;Watchmen&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;The Dark Knight Returns&lt;/i&gt; to be about the only superhero comics worth consideration are going to replace them.  

Yes, DC Imprint Vertigo has its "adult" comic hits, but it's had many misses as well.  For every &lt;i&gt;Preacher&lt;/i&gt;, there's at least two or three &lt;i&gt;Outlaw Nation&lt;/i&gt;s sitting in the "lasted a year" pile.  Also, many of these non-superhero books that are "hot" are finite - they're bookstore-bound, trade-format material.  Readers can get a beginning, a middle, and an end.  They may not necessarily want to see that sort of change happen, considering that monthly sales of Spider-Man and Superman to the fanboys still make up a large percentage of their business.

I think &lt;i&gt;Pride Of Baghdad&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Can't Get No&lt;/i&gt; shows that Vertigo is trying to match the bookstore model and hopefully they'll succeed.  (I'm sure &lt;i&gt;Pride Of Baghdad&lt;/i&gt; is going to do well with the media push it's getting.)  I doubt if Marvel, under its current administration, can contemplate doing a creator-owned graphic novel with high production values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as they can continue selling to their insular, core audience of spandex fans, Marvel and DC won&#8217;t do anything to diversify their mainline titles at all.  What they need to worry about is the fact that a large segment market segment they have is literally on its way to dying out.  Kids raised on Manga, along with a twentysomethings who read graphic novels and consider <i>Watchmen</i> and <i>The Dark Knight Returns</i> to be about the only superhero comics worth consideration are going to replace them.  </p>
<p>Yes, DC Imprint Vertigo has its &#8220;adult&#8221; comic hits, but it&#8217;s had many misses as well.  For every <i>Preacher</i>, there&#8217;s at least two or three <i>Outlaw Nation</i>s sitting in the &#8220;lasted a year&#8221; pile.  Also, many of these non-superhero books that are &#8220;hot&#8221; are finite - they&#8217;re bookstore-bound, trade-format material.  Readers can get a beginning, a middle, and an end.  They may not necessarily want to see that sort of change happen, considering that monthly sales of Spider-Man and Superman to the fanboys still make up a large percentage of their business.</p>
<p>I think <i>Pride Of Baghdad</i> and <i>Can&#8217;t Get No</i> shows that Vertigo is trying to match the bookstore model and hopefully they&#8217;ll succeed.  (I&#8217;m sure <i>Pride Of Baghdad</i> is going to do well with the media push it&#8217;s getting.)  I doubt if Marvel, under its current administration, can contemplate doing a creator-owned graphic novel with high production values.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence (a.k.a. Bahlactus)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarence (a.k.a. Bahlactus)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's happenin', Joe?  This is a pretty solid topic.  I've had the same conversation recently with some cats at my local shop.  I think that superhero genre won't fade, especially with Marvel and DC still in the mix.  As far as both houses go, superhero stories are a staple, time tested, and I'm confident will continue to soldier on.

I do anticipate a rise in houses similar to Darkhorse, Boom Studios, etc that publish Comics that have great character development, action, clever storytelling which will balance out the industry.  We do see evidence of the big houses starting to branch out at times, "Rush City" from DC is a new joint that doesn't deal heavily in the superhero line (although Black Canary makes an appearance in issue #2, but, I'm good with that) and will continue to do so.  Marvel is coming out with Brubakers new, "Criminal" story which I think will be on point and also shows they consider plots outside their bread-n-butter genre to be viable.

Continued success from the houses like Vertigo and Darkhorse especially will legitimize the efforts of others wanting to get down in the industry and put their Comics up for solicitation that have nothing to do with the superhero genre, and it will work.

Keep up the good work. I'm digging the thought that goes into a lot of the posts on here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s happenin&#8217;, Joe?  This is a pretty solid topic.  I&#8217;ve had the same conversation recently with some cats at my local shop.  I think that superhero genre won&#8217;t fade, especially with Marvel and DC still in the mix.  As far as both houses go, superhero stories are a staple, time tested, and I&#8217;m confident will continue to soldier on.</p>
<p>I do anticipate a rise in houses similar to Darkhorse, Boom Studios, etc that publish Comics that have great character development, action, clever storytelling which will balance out the industry.  We do see evidence of the big houses starting to branch out at times, &#8220;Rush City&#8221; from DC is a new joint that doesn&#8217;t deal heavily in the superhero line (although Black Canary makes an appearance in issue #2, but, I&#8217;m good with that) and will continue to do so.  Marvel is coming out with Brubakers new, &#8220;Criminal&#8221; story which I think will be on point and also shows they consider plots outside their bread-n-butter genre to be viable.</p>
<p>Continued success from the houses like Vertigo and Darkhorse especially will legitimize the efforts of others wanting to get down in the industry and put their Comics up for solicitation that have nothing to do with the superhero genre, and it will work.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work. I&#8217;m digging the thought that goes into a lot of the posts on here.</p>
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